Monday, February 17, 2014

BEWARE! Cheap microsd cards Reformatted / upgraded on e-bay- HOW to test!


I can't believe that e-bay are allowing sellers to list and sell these cards!
Lets be clear about this..... a big capacity memory card for less than 20% of the usual cost of these cards?
Sounds too good to be true! Hmmmm.....
Why such good value?
I'll tell you why....... Because they are Fake!
Lets say you buy one of these cards, then try to load it up with files, movies, maybe your valuable pictures, documents, etc.


After a while, you will reach a point where the files will start to become lost....The write process slows down... They will appear to copy to the card ok, but when you try to access them again, trust me... they won't be there!
This is because the true size of these memory cards has been faked!
For example, the 64Gb card may only have a true size of just 4Gb, but it will have a hacked volume descriptor  that fools your PC or Phone into thinking it's got 64Gb of storage, so this false value is what your PC/Phone will show as the card memory size.
The seller will try to get round this by describing the card as "reformatted" or "upgraded" , It "may not be supported by your hardware" or "works ok only on specific windows versions" "no returns" , or to quote one seller.... "IF YOU ARE USING THESE MICRO SD CARDS IN OTHER MEDIA DEVICES, PLEASE CHECK THAT THEY SUPPORT THIS SIZE BEFORE PURCHASING, AS I CANNOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR INCORRECTLY PLACED ORDERS."
plus other spurious claims ,in order to try to dissuade you from making a valid Paypal claim.
They'll sell you the card, then try to blame your equipment or operating system for the reason it won't work.
They Know the cards are rubbish.... Grrr!..... it makes me so mad that they are allowed to continue to sell them!
Normally a buyer receives the card, writes a few files to it, and then gives them positive feedback, it's only when they start to load the card up that they realize there is some problem with it,  but by then it's too late to complain..... they've already said the card is great.
Only a small percentage of buyers in the know will suss out there is a problem and negotiate a refund..... check sellers feedback carefully.... even  "positive" feedback from buyers mentioning a refund should start ringing alarm bells with you.
 One seller I've seen even admits in the auction details that it is a 4Gb card reformatted to 64Gb...... Absolute-Utter-Complete-Hogwash!, It's like reprinting the label on a can of lager to say it contains One Gallon of beer!
If you buy one of these cards,  you might as well open your front door and throw your hard earned cash down the street!
Please don't be fooled.
If you have already bought one...and are having problems with it,  make a claim! don't let them scam you.
Try to buy from a seller who has a lots of good feedback for the item they are selling, with absolutely Minimal or Zero negative feedback !
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HOW TO CHECK YOUR SDHC CARD 

How to test...

There are many different methods of testing for fakes. If you purchased a micro SDHC from ebay for a very low price, chances are its a fake. When you start using it and it freezes or does not hold what you saved and its always asking to be reformatted then its safe to say its a fake. A fake is a chip that is reprogrammed to show you a different value then the original. So the capacity is false and when you try to record on that space it will fail and causing the system to freeze and glitch. There are a few programs that can be used to detect counterfeit chips and might even be able to repair it, but it depends on if it is worth fixing. Another thing to keep in mind is that when you use the adapter to connect to the card reader, it has a very high chance that it will not pick it up, until it has been re-sized to the correct capacity.
There is a program call h2testw that can test the chip for the correct capacity, it could be found by googling online. Now the chip might not be able to be read using the adapter so using a usb adapter instead can be useful since the only way that the program can help is if the computer picks up the chip.
For linux users there is a program similar to h2testw which is f3, which can be downloaded at http://oss.digirati.com.br/f3/

Testing

The above picture is what the program looks like and you can select the drive that will be tested, in this case it is the E drive. The data volume is the size that you want to test, if you have a feeling that the capacity is smaller the the actual size then you can use the "only" option and input the size you want to test.

Results

The above picture shows the results that was tested for 110MB from a chip labeled 32gb. And on the text side you can see that there is a 9.2MByte data lost after verifying the 100.7MB which means that this chip is only 100MB and is trash for the price it was purchased for and not worth it to fix. But if it was a decent usable size then it might be worth the fix.

How to fix a fake

There are a few ways to fix the fake, one of them is to format with a genuine windows cd, this means that the MicroSDHC might need a usb adapter connected while the pc is booted up and when the format/install screen shows, you need to choose the MicroSDHC drive to be formatted and installed. Some people choose the option to remove the harddrive before formatting the MicroSDHC but that is not necessary to do, since the format gives an option of drives to choose from. This has worked for many but some had no success with this. If it does work it will set the MicroSDHC back to its original state and capacity.
Another way to work around the unusable capacity is to fence it out. This is not a complete solution because if it is formatted it will go back to its "fake" state. To do this you can use Bootice which can be googled and downloaded for free. Use this only when you know how much capacity the drive has. This is a quick solution, but remember that if it is formatted on the pc or phone it will go back to what it was.
Another method which is to reflash the chip entirely, but you need to have the VID and the PID to do this, and the program to obtain would be chipgenius which again can be googled. This will give you the needed. After getting the ID needed you can go to www.flashboot.ru/index.php?name=iflash and input the VID and PID and check if they chip has a flash that it can use to correct the capacity.
Just keep in mind that these are fixes that may or may not work, but these fixes are what many used and we all had success and failure rates with them.

What to do...

The best thing to do before buying anything is to research it, as we had our problems with fakes as well, we bought and was going to list it to sell because we figure hey why not give people chips that they can afford, with how the economy is we thought we can help but did not expected to get duped at every turn, and we had to put the products off the listings we had, taking the lost is ok, but we did not expect people to be so untrustworthy.
We used alibaba at the time since we had some luck with them, but from experience, technology is one that is hard to work with. Just in case anyone reading this runs into a company that calls themselves century-focus.com, just be careful. And if anyone has any insight for us please leave a comment.

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Negative feedback ratingI received a damaged memory card and pictures on my cell phone damaged, gone,Buyer: 
r***p ( 98Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99) 
Jan-17-14 11:32Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingFake item!!!!Buyer: 
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Jan-16-14 13:27Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingTHE ITEM NOT WORK.Buyer: 
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Jan-16-14 12:07Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingTHE ITEM NOT WORK.Buyer: 
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Jan-16-14 12:07Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingi did not recive my itemBuyer: 
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Jan-14-14 09:53Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingfake card seller 32 gbBuyer: 
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Jan-11-14 10:43Feedback conversation
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Jan-10-14 02:53Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingFake SD card. only 8Gb of free space. BEWARE OF THE SELLER!!!Buyer: 
i***i ( 1161Red star icon for feedback score in between 1,000 to 4,999) 
Jan-04-14 13:45Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingDamage cards when I copy something takes 2 hours, poor qualityBuyer: 
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Jan-04-14 05:29Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingFAKE memory cardBuyer: 
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Jan-03-14 10:17Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingFake 32gb MicroSDCard, cannot copy more than 4gb.. but shows 32gb on windows!Buyer: 
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Jan-03-14 01:57Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingThey cheated me, only 8GB of 32GB are functional >:(Buyer: 
d***s ( 70Blue star icon for feedback score in between 50 to 99) 
Jan-02-14 23:59Feedback conversation
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Negative feedback ratingCard was fake/counterfeit. Trashes data when usage is above 2GB. Bevare!Buyer: 
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Jan-02-14 12:06Feedback conversation
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Dec-29-13 15:59Feedback conversation
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Dec-21-13 07:37Feedback conversation
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